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Post by dodgehemi on Oct 30, 2009 12:29:41 GMT -5
I don't belivie he should lose his job and NASCAR should not be involived in it at all he did nothen on the race track wait and let the court try it OK.
If anyone should loss their job Michael Waltrip should be baned from NASCAR 2nd. time for him he didn't learn his lesson the 1st time.
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Post by chilipepper on Oct 30, 2009 15:55:40 GMT -5
I'm suddenly glad I don't drink.........
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Post by songsmith1950 on Oct 30, 2009 16:57:04 GMT -5
I think it was stupid to be out a little drunk at one thirty in the morning when you need to be at Talledega practicing the next day. Now that is dumb!
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Post by pmossberg on Oct 30, 2009 17:06:54 GMT -5
Good point songsmith. But then I was out until 3 am last "night" and had to be back in the office before 9.
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Post by dstanbery on Oct 30, 2009 18:19:18 GMT -5
I got home from the AC/DC concert at 2:30 am last Fri. night and had to have the kids haircuts the next morning before band competion,OUCH! We did have a driver get us home!
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Post by olblue on Oct 30, 2009 19:18:16 GMT -5
All this over a couple of drinks please, close the bars, ban alcohol all together problem solved. The government don't think we have a shred of personal responsibility anyhow. I say leave AJ alone and don't nail him to the cross over something stupid, we all are only human.
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Post by maj45 on Oct 30, 2009 19:22:16 GMT -5
Maybe Michael Waltrip races drunk too! Can you name the last race where he DIDN'T crash? The only grounds RPM has to discipline AJ is because of the public nature of the sport and it's participants. If AJ were a bookkeeper at the local Wal-Mart would he get suspended? Doubtful. No one would ever know he got picked up. Let the legal system play out THEN let RPM respond. "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone," I believe someone famous once said.
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Post by stuck on Oct 30, 2009 19:40:46 GMT -5
I always told my boys... nothing good happens after midnight.
Let me clarify a point. I should have done it before... I think RPM should sit him down at least a race maybe the rest. I take this serious .08 or otherwise.
Hate to see his future cut short by an immature decision. I was reminded of Robbie Moroso today. A brilliant future cut short by a poor decision.
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Post by revilo on Oct 30, 2009 21:01:32 GMT -5
Many years ago I awoke wrapped around my toilet. Once I realized where I was, I went to look for my car. In front of my house sat my 1982 Camaro with the lights on, the driver's door open, and the motor running. To this day I have no idea how I got home that night, or how long my car was sitting there. At that point I made a decision to stop the stupidity. I put down alcohol completely for three years, and have never driven under the influence of alcohol again. I realized that I could have killed someone and not even known it. I believe God saved my life that night. My designated driver must have been my guardian angel. True story, by the way. We do not make significant changes in our lives without significant emotional events. We will see if this event is significant enough for AJ Almendinger to make a change in his life. I hope so. Don, I read your story in the other thread. You are right. We have let drunk drivers skate for too long. Somehow, we must get them off our roads.
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Post by olblue on Oct 31, 2009 6:28:07 GMT -5
Yes I agree revilo, after reading your statement you must have been drinking all day and night and then tried to drive, not a good decision at all. Now thats drunk and should be put in jail if caught no question. AJ's case, thats a little different.
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Post by donmoos on Oct 31, 2009 7:33:21 GMT -5
Ok, I question why we (most of us anyway) are making excuses for AJ. He isn't.
As for casting stones, just wait until someone tells you that while your burying a family member killed by a drunk driver.
And everyones situations is always different.
Drinking and driving is WRONG. .06, .08, .10 or .20 it is not acceptable.
AJ is accepting the punishments for the crime. He has given no indication he is going to challenge the ticket nor is he appealing NASCARS or RPM's punishments.
And Yes, NASCAR and RPM have a right to pass judgement. Just as any employer has a right to take action against employees that do things that damage their businesses/organizations.
And Yes, We as fans have a right to be dissapointed. And we can dish out all the punishment we want. 1. Quit being a fan of his 2. Quit buying his merchandise 3. Send letters to his sponsors objecting to his continued sponsorship 4. Go picket his house 5. Or any other thing that make you feel better.
And Why the heck are we only talking about AJ..............Why isn't Mikey being the center of attention. He had an accident (again) while drinking.
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Post by go43forever on Oct 31, 2009 7:41:16 GMT -5
.08 is illegal in that state so he should get what he deserves for that infraction. But ofcourse since he has the "bank" as someone else said he will probably get the charges dropped like most public figures. Any non public figure would have to indure the letter of the law because we dont have the "BANK". No i dont think its a big deal. noone was hurt but what he did was/is wrong. and someone could have been easily hurt. Then what? What michael w. did was stupid but he was below the legal limit. Just like on the track his off track driving must not be very good..lol.
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Post by baddog43 on Oct 31, 2009 15:11:36 GMT -5
Dinger admits he made a mistake. Nascar puts him on probation for actions detrimental to stock car racing (I hate this comment everytime I read it) Michael Waltrip has his second alcohol related incident on the road (that we know about) and no one says anything about it. Waltrip caused someone to be injured. I don't understand why one person needs to be lynched and the other person says oops and carries on. Is it because Waltrip is so pro Nascar on broadcasts that he gets special treatment. Fair is Fair. Micheal NEVER failed a breathalyzer and it was never proven that his first crash was drinking related that is just what everyone assumed. Tome he did nothing that I would not have done. If Ihad a crash one mile from my house I would walk home! AJ's judgment call was very bad! I wish him the best but I think he needs to be punished just like anyone else would be legally. I think the fine and probation by RPM is sufficient from the team since he will be facing some type of punishment from the state.
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Post by baddog43 on Oct 31, 2009 15:17:11 GMT -5
I don't belivie he should lose his job and NASCAR should not be involived in it at all he did nothen on the race track wait and let the court try it OK. If anyone should loss their job Michael Waltrip should be baned from NASCAR 2nd. time for him he didn't learn his lesson the 1st time. I think you being biased! You think Micheal should be banned when he was never legally drunk and did nothing on the track as you say about AJ but AJ was legally drunk and driving! I don't think AJ should lose his job either but I don't think it is fair to throw Micheal under the bus when our driver was at/over the limit!
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Post by pmossberg on Oct 31, 2009 15:48:28 GMT -5
AJ is being open about the entire thing. He's admitted he was wrong. RPM management fined him $10k, which will go to charity. NASCAR has him on probation. So professionally, he's already paid more than the average person. If it were me, I'd be back at work as if nothing happened. As far as the civil penalties, like any of us, he's entitled to his day in court (which I think is sometime in December).
As far as Waltrip's first accident, we'll never know. He not only did not admit to anything, he tried to escape whatever he may have done. He didn't just "walk home". He LEFT THE SCENE! That's a violation where I come from. And when the police arrived at his house to give him a sobriety test, no one came to the door! It was reported that he was hiding in his cabana! And he had walked home in his socks. No, none of that is admissable proof. But it sure tells me he was drunk. And his actions are WAY more irresponsible than AJ's.
In his second accident, he made a u-turn in front of a motorcyclist. He blew a .06, under the statutory limit. The police report says alcohol was a contributing factor in the accident. But he could not be charged because he was under the statutory limit. NASCAR did nothing. And his team did nothing. Oh, wait a minute. He owns the team!
As far as I'm concerned the "limit" ought to be 0.00. If you drink, let someone else drive!
AJ did not do that and he got caught. We'll hear more details when he appears in court. Meanwhile, without being convicted of anything, he's already paying a price.
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