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Post by djblue43 on Jan 27, 2017 1:05:07 GMT -5
How many, besides myself, have pretty much had it with NASCRAP screwing around with everything. This latest bunch of BS has all but done me in as far as even trying to watch a so called race. The "points system" is so screwed up and convoluted that no one will ever know what's going on. And then you can't replace body panels after a wreck and there's going to be limits on how much repair work can be done................I MIGHT try to watch Daytona, but I'm not betting on it. After over 50 years of following racing I just might be done with it. Any they wonder why they can't fill the stands any more. Congrats NASCRAP!!
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Post by twiss43 on Jan 27, 2017 8:13:46 GMT -5
I'm waiting to see what happens at Daytona. Then I will see if I continue to follow racing anymore.
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Post by jessn16 on Jan 28, 2017 1:44:41 GMT -5
I'm of two minds on this.
Optimistic: All long-format sports are struggling to retain interest. Golf (5-hour rounds), bowling (30-36 weeks to complete a season), college/NFL looking for ways to shorten their games, MLB trying to pick up the pace via pitch clocks, etc. Auto racing is incredibly long-format by comparison to many other sports, with no breaks, so this move addresses changing tastes in sports consumers, and it just might work.
Pessimistic: Eventually you change so much that you're not even the same sport you once were. And this does nothing to address actual on-course talent and lack of compelling stories for fans to follow.
Jess
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Post by maj45 on Jan 28, 2017 10:29:17 GMT -5
This is a combination of Americans' short attention spans and everybody gets a trophy. The point is winning complete races, not having a leading after 100 miles of it. If they want to award cash bonuses for leading segments, fine. It's like awarding a trophy to a baseball team for leading after 4 innings. We want action and we want it now. We want it continuously. And we want it over in 2 hours. It's lowest common denominator thinking. I'm disappointed NASCAR keeps moving the goalpost. It's all about television. Empty seats look bad and low viewership ratings equate to less money. Maybe we should block interstates and set police cars on fire in protest, at least we'd get some coverage on tv.
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Post by pb1945 on Jan 29, 2017 20:53:58 GMT -5
What on earth could have provoked NASCAR to do this. The fastest and the consistently fastest cars made the chase. Now for the final top spot I think there should be few more spots added, kinda a shame ... to race for it all with only the final 4 eligible to win the CUP. There's a pretty fine performance line between the top ten cars at the end of the year.  To a degree I see their point about replacing body panels and fenders. Most teams have this down to science now. Just look at the last couple Daytona and Talledega races. There has been a couple cars come back out after a pretty severe accident and still manage to hang with the lead pack. They are clearing the edge of decals now as well as wrapping the cars for the last 10th of a mph, some teams have their package down so well they can get the car back out with good AERO. Why the stands are only half full they simply overbuilt. TV has made it way to convenient for us to watch the race and see WAY MORE than if we were in the stands. Sure you don't get the track experience most of us have had that already by now, at least old hacks like me. Money is a player too, I don't think the younger generation is as into racing as we were. My grandson has no interest in racing most of the kids now don't spend hundreds of hours under a car or taking one from scrap and souping it up. Now if you have the money you can buy a showroom stock car or truck that is/was way quicker than anything we put together back in the day. Over the years I have spent god knows how many thousand hrs hanging on and working on a car and truck to make it better and faster. The younger people now don't have the interest. I think NASCAR better quit tinkering or they are going to lose more sponsors. The kind of money that is involved in all this blows my mind way more than a lot of small countries have period. Just my 2 cents Dan |
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Post by butch442 on Feb 24, 2017 18:35:12 GMT -5
I'm waiting to see what happens at Daytona. Then I will see if I continue to follow racing anymore. you gotta watch its in your Petty blue blood |
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Post by djblue43 on Feb 25, 2017 1:35:49 GMT -5
Nope, sorry butch. Haven't even watched 1 lap run yet and really don't intend to. Have too many MUCH more important things going on right now, to waste my time watching some crap that I don't like, understand, or anything else. I do hope RPM runs better than they have in years. And who knows,I might even watch some of this junk; if it's snowing outside and there's nothing more interesting to do. Like watch paint dry.
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Post by pb1945 on Feb 25, 2017 14:04:17 GMT -5
I admit I'm almost to the point of not watching live. I record most of the races and watch them later. I also cut out the prerace B.S. as well as the talking heads during the race.
For all us old guys the 500 is like a 4 car trophy dash on a quarter mile or half mike track, they are 10 feet apart to start and 10 feet apart when they finish.
Last night the truck race was the perfect example those trucks were so uncontrollable and with that kind of speed it's a miracle any finished. I think out of 32 starters there was only about 9 or 10 that took the checkered. NASCAR needs to slow those trucks down, when one gets turned far enough it's going airborne two or three perfect examples of that last night.
Take that damn spoiler off the back of the trucks and cars. Sure that will slow the cars down but they had exciting races at 160-170 mph. Now that spoiler lets then run in a conga line two feet apart. Doesn't take a genius to see with that kind of side to side movement and for crying out loud the bumping and pushing just doesn't make good racing and causes 75% of the accidents.
But it is what it is NASCAR isn't going to listen and it's going away.
I think based on what I saw in qualifying and the duals the 43 is going to have a tough time breaking and staying in the top 15. Barring an accident I think he may run top 15 most of the race but with 20 to go the fast cars are gonna go to the front. That is unless they have found something since Thursday.
Dan
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